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Wizard
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Lately I've been asked for the odds in baccarat for unusual numbers of decks. I think they are doing a 12-deck shoe somewhere in Singapore but I think I've heard of other numbers being used somewhere. Baccarat math is pretty easy so I threw together this page -- Baccarat Odds for 1 to 12 Decks. Please have a look and let me know what you think. As always, I welcome questions, comments, and especially suggestions.
The question for the poll is which statements do you agree with? Multiple votes allowed.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
ThatDonGuy
Side note: Seinfeld may have stolen the joke from BBC's Brain of Britain radio series. In the early 1990s, somebody was asked the question, 'The Three Tenors performed in Rome the night before the 1990 World Cup final; who are they?', and the contestant replied, 'I know two of them, but have no idea who the third one is.'
JB
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I'm not sure Microsoft deserves the blame for the 15-digit limit. These are ultimately the limits of the IEEE-754 double-precision floating-point format (the 'double' data type in C/C++/C#). However, given Microsoft's expertise, they could have implemented a greater precision for Excel. They did for C#, although operations on doubles are faster since they are performed by the CPU/FPU.
Wizard
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I'm not sure Microsoft deserves the blame for the 15-digit limit. These are ultimately the limits of the IEEE-754 double-precision floating-point format (the 'double' data type in C/C++/C#). However, given Microsoft's expertise, they could have implemented a greater precision for Excel. They did for C#, although operations on doubles are faster since they are performed by the CPU/FPU.


In Visual Studio C++ you can declare an __int64 variable, which has obviously hold 64 bits instead of the usual 32. If declared as unsigned, it can reach values up to 18.4 quintillion, or 19-20 significant digits. I've heard Mathematica has accuracy to millions of decimal places.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
JB
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My baccarat program uses 64-bit integers. If you're interested, here are the 'pure' numbers for the ones that encountered the 15-digit limitation. For 10 decks, the numbers you have are already accurate.
DecksPlayerBankerTieTotal
7995,884,732,700,0321,023,469,376,328,448212,268,385,833,2802,231,622,494,861,760
82,230,518,282,592,2562,292,252,566,437,888475,627,426,473,2164,998,398,275,503,360
94,540,095,442,933,6324,665,676,262,757,120968,435,421,769,72810,174,207,127,460,480
1115,222,978,065,896,83215,643,682,376,129,2803,248,754,169,011,64834,115,414,611,037,760
1225,714,619,121,272,83226,425,038,379,143,1685,488,795,281,294,72057,628,452,781,710,720
Wizard
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Mine does too. However, when copying and pasting into Excel, you lose everything after 15 or 16 digits. I could copy and paste the exact numbers into the HTML but I'm hoping Bill Gates will stumble on the page and then see to it the necessary improvements are made.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
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greenberry26
Hi, sorry to activate this thread. I've seen your page on the odds for 1 to 12 decks, however, I am interested in the number of combinations per Banker or Player result (e.g. how many combinations are there where the Banker wins on 6 in a 10-deck shoe?). I am particularly interested in a 10-deck shoe. I'm guessing this is an easy computation for you, so hoping you have this stored somewhere. Thanks!
ThatDonGuy
Here's what I get:

Player wins with 194,780,865,497,600
Player wins with 2170,472,431,654,400
Player wins with 3241,940,928,643,200
Player wins with 4331,273,378,771,200
Player wins with 5472,005,527,200,000
Player wins with 61,201,685,065,446,400
Player wins with 71,567,353,547,491,200
Player wins with 82,136,206,001,932,800
Player wins with 92,354,737,094,771,200
Bank wins with 193,430,787,264,000
Bank wins with 2171,863,109,990,400
Bank wins with 3280,263,170,428,800
Bank wins with 4627,932,444,051,200
Bank wins with 5832,427,227,372,800
Bank wins with 61,034,753,540,582,400
Bank wins with 71,476,066,627,996,800
Bank wins with 82,036,595,696,595,200
Bank wins with 92,254,069,981,753,600
0-0 tie111,707,735,539,200
1-1 tie78,765,726,769,600
2-2 tie76,959,284,304,000
3-3 tie85,486,205,284,800
4-4 tie139,569,561,609,600
5-5 tie152,433,381,867,200
6-6 tie369,912,808,987,200
7-7 tie390,759,532,380,800
8-8 tie211,152,814,804,800
9-9 tie211,882,447,836,800


I have the feeling the one number you are really interested in is:
If a Banker win with 6 is a push, the house edge on Banker is 4.153835%
greenberry26
This is awesome, thanks!
Actually, interested in each of the individual outcomes as there are different variants in my region, such as Super Six and Baccarat 27.
If you would have the counts for Player and Banker naturals, that would be great too!
  • Appendices
  • Baccarat Analysis
  • Miscellaneous

Introduction

In either blackjack or baccarat a good first step in developing a card counting strategy is to determine the effect of removing any given card from the game. The following table shows the number of banker, player, and tie wins resulting from the removing of one card in an 8-deck shoe. The card removed is indicated in the image--leftolumn.

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Number

Card
Removed
Banker WinPlayer WinTie Win
122592662028147202198201626637560468838163231312
222593903474394802198279181695870468636463548240
322594153369551302198240411263230468650244465232
422595656395608302198132965463160468607387659600
522590565407134702198626760121850468622691848272
622592306298549702198942636434940468132726393680
722592886254717402198847351781120468170015430736
822588808772148402198299582316670469125533152080
922590132111123202198292198535290469000583035984
1022590946490869702198163195365880469048148230736

The next table puts these number is some perspective by indicating the probability of a banker, player, and tie win according to the card removed.

Probability

Card
Removed
Banker WinPlayer WinTie Win
10.4586130.4462170.09517
20.4586380.4462330.095129
30.4586430.4462250.095132
40.4586730.4462030.095123
50.458570.4463030.095127
60.4586050.4463670.095027
70.4586170.4463480.095035
80.4585340.4462370.095229
90.4585610.4462350.095203
100.4585780.4462090.095213

The next table shows the house edge of each bet by card removed.

House Edge

Card
Removed
BankerPlayerTie
10.0105350.0123960.143467
20.0105270.0124050.143836
30.0105140.0124180.14381
40.0104630.012470.143889
50.0106620.0122670.143861
60.0106920.0122380.144756
70.0106620.0122690.144688
80.0106290.0122980.142942
90.0106020.0123260.14317
100.010560.0123690.143083

The next table shows the effect on the house edge of each bet according to the card removed. A negative number indicates removal is bad for the player, positive indicates removal is good.

House Edge

Card
Removed
BankerPlayerTie
00.000019-0.0000180.000513
10.000044-0.0000450.000129
20.000052-0.000054-0.000239
30.000065-0.000067-0.000214
40.000116-0.000120-0.000292
5-0.0000830.000084-0.000264
6-0.0001130.000113-0.001160
7-0.0000830.000082-0.001091
8-0.000050.0000530.000654
9-0.0000230.0000250.000426

The next table multiplies the above numbers by ten million.

Count Adjustment

Card
Removed
BankerPlayerTie
0188-1785129
1440-4481293
2522-543-2392
3649-672-2141
41157-1195-2924
5-827841-2644
6-11321128-11595
7-827817-10914
8-5025336543
9-2312494260
Average000

To adapt this information to a card counting strategy, the player should start with three running counts of zero. As each card is seen as it leaves the shoe the player should add the point values of that card to each running count. For example if the first card to be played is an 8 then the three running counts would be: banker=-502, player=533, tie=6543. Of course the player does not have to keep a running track of all three counts. In fact the point values for the banker and player are nearly opposite of each other. A high running count for the banker would mean a corresponding low count for the player, and vise versa.

In order for any given bet to become advantageous the player should divide the running count by the ratio of cards left in the deck to get the true count. A bet hits zero house edge at the following true counts:

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  • Banker: 105791
  • Player: 123508
  • Tie: 1435963

Assuming you were able to actually play this strategy perfectly you would notice that the true counts seldom passed the point of zero house edge. The next table shows the ratio of hands played, based on a sample of 100 million, in which the true count passes the break even points above. The image--leftolumn indicates the ratio of cards dealt before the cards are shuffled.

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Positive Expectation

PenetrationBankerPlayerTie
90 percent0.0001310.0000240.000002
95 percent0.0010620.0003810.000092
98 percent0.0058760.0037000.002106

The final table indicates the expected revenue per 100 bets and a $1000 wager every time a positive expected value occured. Please remember that this table assumes the player is able to keep a perfect count and the casino is not going to mind the player only making a bet once every 475 hands of less.

Expected Profit

PenetrationBankerPlayerTie
90 percent$0.01$0.00$0.00
95 percent$0.20$0.06$0.15
98 percent$2.94$1.77$11.93

I hope this section shows that for all practical purposes baccarat is not a countable game. For more information on a similar experiment I would recomment The Theory of Blackjack by Peter A. Griffin. Although the book is mainly devoted to blackjack he has part of a chapter titled 'Can Baccarat Be Beaten?' on pages 216 to 223. Griffin concludes by saying that even in Atlantic City, with a more liberal shuffle point than Las Vegas, the player betting $1000 in positive expectation hands can expect to profit 70 cents an hour.

For your further consideration I would recommend this baccarat odds calculator. You can put in any deck composition and it will give the house edge on all three bets.

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